Steve Harvey calls Tavis Smiley and Cornell West an Uncle Tom

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Kalagenesis says (23:00:17):
Tonight Open Rant
ImhotepVII says to (23:03:30):
Peace Kala
ImhotepVII says to (23:03:49):
I'm sick that I missed your show last night with Capt. Hitt
Kalagenesis says (23:04:45):
Peace brother Imhotep
ImhotepVII says to (23:04:48):
I had to get some sleep. I fell asleep at the wheel while coming home and almost went off the road
Kalagenesis says (23:04:58):
Yes we had a blowout show
Kalagenesis says (23:06:36):
Our future National Anthem from IAAC
ImhotepVII says to (23:08:26):
Yes, I remember that
ImhotepVII says to (23:08:29):
Powerful
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BlackAchievement USA says to (23:15:16):
:o~(
ImhotepVII says to (23:15:46):
Hi BA
ImhotepVII says to (23:15:53):
Hi BA
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:16:05):
imhotep
ImhotepVII says to (23:23:40):
Peace mansamusa
ImhotepVII says to (23:23:46):
Peace mansamusa
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:24:38):
hey let's go to africa!
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:24:59):
no, let's go to london
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:25:14):
revolution baby!
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:27:46):
tavis said i'm going to be the next kalagenesis
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:28:45):
tavis had a good ten year run
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:30:34):
Kalagenesis is losing listeners.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:30:42):
His cesspool show is going down.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:30:50):
Bill Clinton was a libtard.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:31:10):
Most people in the chatrooms are Guests.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:31:41):
Kala was roasted by real black men on ggt183's show the other night.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:32:02):
Where's Kala's trash supporters?
BlackAchievement USA says to (23:32:02):
speaking loud, say nothing--BA's gone
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:32:16):
Obama=foreign-born Islamic Communist usurper.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:33:01):
I'm glad that this is getting published on Kala's trash blog.
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:33:10):
Kala=ugly racist bastard
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:33:17):
Kala=trash
Benyamin Solomon says to (23:33:22):
Kalagenesis is racist trash.
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ImhotepVII says to (23:37:26):
Peace mansamusa
ImhotepVII says to (23:37:37):
Peace JoeGoode
JoeGoode says to (23:38:07):
Peace brother
ImhotepVII says to (23:39:37):
Peace SlimJim
SlimJim says to (23:40:07):
always peace
SlimJim says to (23:42:52):
join me in fighting slavery in the current age..
SlimJim says to (23:43:17):
child slave trade is growing and will unless we check it now
SlimJim says to (23:45:48):
kala.. stop making sense.. peverty and playstations cannot easily be reconciled
SlimJim says to (23:46:22):
laziness travels so slowly that poverty soon overtakes it....
JoeGoode says to (23:54:21):
Obama is doing a great job? Really?
SlimJim says to (23:55:48):
i dont need to say a thing here...
Kalagenesis says (23:56:12):
That is what this is all about
JoeGoode says to (23:57:04):
So typical. This is another example of not holding accountable politicians that we supported.
Kalagenesis says (23:57:46):
accountable?
SlimJim says to (23:57:56):
listen.. any fool can blame others.. and most fools do
Kalagenesis says (23:58:17):
tell me what the hell is a poverty people?
SlimJim says to (23:58:18):
dont run on solutions if u dont have any
JoeGoode says to (23:58:19):
Obama is the president of the whole United States, yet he has helped groups other that Blacks.
Kalagenesis says (23:58:38):
what groups?
SlimJim says to (23:58:49):
i know what poverty is.. is a way of life
SlimJim says to (23:59:09):
as long as one accepts it
JoeGoode says to (23:59:10):
Gays, the rich, hispanics.
Kalagenesis says (23:59:21):
those are interest groups
Kalagenesis says (23:59:29):
with specific interest
JoeGoode says to (23:59:37):
I did say groups, didn't I.
Kalagenesis says (23:59:40):
not all black people are poor
JoeGoode says to (23:59:53):
Many are.
JoeGoode says to (00:00:06):
More are poor than middle class
SlimJim says to (00:00:12):
who said all black people are poor?
Kalagenesis says (00:00:11):
Not true
Kalagenesis says (00:00:29):
Most Black people are working to middle class
SlimJim says to (00:00:46):
most whites are working class
JoeGoode says to (00:01:02):
Not true. If the net worth of Blacks is approx. $6000, how is that middle class?
SlimJim says to (00:01:58):
net worth is one thing.. you can earn $1 million per year and have a low net worth.. depends on how u manage money
JoeGoode says to (00:02:13):
Define middle class.
JoeGoode says to (00:02:30):
You get your facts together. Again define middle class
SlimJim says to (00:02:35):
black people, by and large, do not manage money well
JoeGoode says to (00:02:54):
Define poor while you are at it.
JoeGoode says to (00:03:02):
What is it?
SlimJim says to (00:03:19):
joe, i define middle class on earnings.. not what is spent
JoeGoode says to (00:03:25):
You still have not defined it. What taking you so long?
SlimJim says to (00:04:41):
i will not see a man earning $400 per year and spending $500 per year as poor.. or even middle class even tho they are broke
SlimJim says to (00:05:57):
look kala.. dont play up Obama.. he is a business and economic idiot.. thats it
Pianki says to (00:06:02):
Medium for AA is $34,000 +/-. The average per cap is around $18,135 in 2009
Pianki says to (00:07:18):
I agree with you on that.
Pianki says to (00:07:23):
Nooo
uBpJessie says to (00:07:51):
(})'
SlimJim says to (00:08:30):
how is the tea party to blame when the dems have been in control of government sice 2006?
ImhotepVII says to (00:08:30):
Peace uBpJessie
SlimJim says to (00:08:39):
what a freakin cop ouy
Pianki says to (00:08:59):
Heck the per capital in Libya is $15,000 per year plus free education, health,housing allowance, free education abroad ect.
SlimJim says to (00:09:09):
sure.. identify yourself is voter oppresssion.. ok
SlimJim says to (00:09:39):
jsut cuz you want a hatian style election where people vote over and over inseveral places
SlimJim says to (00:10:34):
serioulsy.. explain how requiring identification is voter opression
JoeGoode says to (00:10:36):
Most economist define middle class as citizens as those with NET WORTHS of between $25000 and $250,000. I can give anyone the source of my information.
JoeGoode says to (00:11:01):
Again, most Blacks are not middle class, but are poor.
SlimJim says to (00:11:19):
middle class should be defined as earning power..
SlimJim says to (00:11:31):
no matter what any egg-head says
JoeGoode says to (00:11:48):
Then find me a definition Slim that agrees with you.
SlimJim says to (00:12:08):
i dont need to follow people.. i think freely
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:12:27):
TO EACH, HIS REACH
SlimJim says to (00:12:36):
i disagree with most "scholars"
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:12:41):
THE TRICK IS NOT TO BE BLACK & POOR
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:12:52):
IF U CAN NAME IT, U CAN CLAIM IT
JoeGoode says to (00:12:52):
Ok. Do you always make up your own definitions. Which way is up to you?
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:13:01):
THAT'S REV. IKE FOR U
SlimJim says to (00:13:19):
i have my own thoughts, not definitions
JoeGoode says to (00:14:01):
Well when you think of the word "up" do you look down?
AmericanCitizen says to (00:14:03):
(})
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:14:09):
EITHER U GOT IT OR U DON'T---NO MORE CLASSES
SlimJim says to (00:14:15):
i think a man who earns $300,000 per year and wastes it to the point he is only worth $1000 is not middle class
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:15:05):
UNIVERSAL LIFE INSURANCE IS A POOR INVESTMENT
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:15:14):
GO TERM AND SAVE LIKE HELL
Kalagenesis says (00:15:23):
so Slim if he lives like a king on the hill he can collect food stamps?
Kalagenesis says (00:15:29):
I think not
SlimJim says to (00:15:43):
hell no Kala
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:15:45):
WE DON'T HAVE WEALTH BECAUSE OUR DOLLARS DON'T CIRCULATE
SlimJim says to (00:16:02):
i consider him a wealthy man with poot behavior..
SlimJim says to (00:16:07):
poor
Pianki says to (00:16:28):
For Black America, 2010 Looks a Lot Like the 1970s. http://news.change.org/stories/for-black-america-2010-looks-a-lot-like-the-1970s
AmericanCitizen says to (00:16:49):
black people don't have wealth because they do not have good credit and do not have the knowledge about how to properly run a business
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:17:05):
DAMN AC
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:17:15):
WHAT'S GOOD CREDIT
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:17:27):
WE DON'T PAY BILLS, BRO
SlimJim says to (00:17:35):
if rich people behaved like poor people, they would soon be poor, if poor people behaved like rich people, they would soon be rich
AmericanCitizen says to (00:17:51):
good credit for a small business loan is a score of 690 or better.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:18:10):
THE HARLEM MARCH THIS WEEK IS GOING TO LIFT US OUT OF PROPERTY THIS TIME--I PROMISE
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:18:19):
GO TO THE HARLEM MARCH
SlimJim says to (00:18:24):
Credit Smedit... credit is not an avenue to wealth.. its and evenue to poverty
AmericanCitizen says to (00:18:57):
u have to have a line of credit to operate a small business@slimjim
Pianki says to (00:19:07):
According to latest Survey of Black Businesses by US Census, 87% of Black Business gross less than $50k per year.
Pianki says to (00:19:19):
Thas a hobby
SlimJim says to (00:19:29):
as a business AC? yes i do.. never touched it
SlimJim says to (00:19:59):
and.. no, u dont have to have a LOC to operate a small business
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:20:01):
WHAT'S STOPPING BLACK FROM HAVING VERTICAL INTEGRATION
SlimJim says to (00:20:17):
behavior
AmericanCitizen says to (00:20:33):
many black folks get that first white collar job making 60,000 or more and the first thing they buy is a new Escalade.
AmericanCitizen says to (00:21:03):
a depreciating asset = new car
SlimJim says to (00:21:23):
i earn way more than that and have not, or never will, buy a brand new car.. let alone an escalade
Kalagenesis says (00:21:34):
AC tell Joe Bad that
JoeGoode says to (00:21:39):
What about a jobs program Kala?
Pianki says to (00:21:39):
Black Slave taught white america how to grow rice. Today the Rice industry is over 34 billion. Blacks participate little if at all in this industry. I can not find a Black Rice farmer/Miller. I need 12,500
Pianki says to (00:21:54):
metric tons of 5% broken long grain
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:22:04):
60K CAN'T BUY AN ESCLADE--ONLY IF U PLAN TO LIVE IN IT
Kalagenesis says (00:22:07):
Ok Joe I will answer that
SlimJim says to (00:22:15):
ive got the money in savings to buy an escalade.. but what stops me?
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:22:25):
ESCALADE COSTS OVER 60K
SlimJim says to (00:22:31):
yep
AmericanCitizen says to (00:22:47):
i said 60k or more --u can buy a new car thru financing
Pianki says to (00:22:48):
Man I wouldn't pay 60k for an automobile
uBpJessie says to (00:22:52):
zombie banks?
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:23:04):
IF U HAD 600K U WOULD PIANKI
Pianki says to (00:23:17):
No I would not
uBpJessie says to (00:23:19):
yeah pianki I'm too frugal for that
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:23:21):
MONEY MAKE MONEY
SlimJim says to (00:23:23):
why would you ever buy anything on financing?
JoeGoode says to (00:23:28):
Who said I was anti-nationalist?
JoeGoode says to (00:23:37):
I just don't like Obama
AmericanCitizen says to (00:23:37):
an Escalade payment is about 400 dollars per month
SlimJim says to (00:23:48):
thats a house note
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:23:50):
FOR A PROFESSIONAL AN AUTO IS AN INVESTMENT
JoeGoode says to (00:23:58):
What about infrastructure repair?
Kalagenesis says (00:24:11):
A nationalist knows we need to have our own infrastructure to create jobs
SlimJim says to (00:24:19):
an auto is a a tax deduction, not an investment
Kalagenesis says (00:24:34):
That is Congress
Pianki says to (00:24:36):
No 60k escalade will go for 400 per mo
AmericanCitizen says to (00:24:41):
not an escalade or a range rover---i know plenty of doctors and lawyers who drive buicks@black achievement
Pianki says to (00:24:45):
Even for 7 years
JoeGoode says to (00:24:56):
I understand that Kala. I don't disagree with the nationalist agenda, but we are talking about Obama.
SlimJim says to (00:25:02):
as an investment, autos are as bad as it gets
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:25:06):
DEPENDS PIANKI---DIDN'T U SEE THE LINCOLN LAWYER
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:25:22):
IF U IN REAL ESTATE A CAR IS AN INVESTMENT
Pianki says to (00:25:23):
@BA. No what did he do?
Kalagenesis says (00:25:30):
Warlord X!!!!!!!!!1\
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:25:41):
IF U IN SALES CAR IS IMPORTANT
AmericanCitizen says to (00:25:51):
a realtor needs an escalade to show houses?@BA
Pianki says to (00:25:57):
Not 60k
SlimJim says to (00:25:58):
important yes, but investment no
JoeGoode says to (00:26:15):
Did the republicans really block it? I see Obama agreeing with a lot of the republicans agenda. He says one thing and agrees with another. That is my problem with him.
Pianki says to (00:26:17):
Unless you are selling hollywood property
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:26:27):
AC DEPENDS ON THE HOUSE BROTHER---LIKE I SAID MONEY MAKES MONEY
SlimJim says to (00:26:37):
oh wait.. this is 2011 where investment means excuse to spend crazy money
Pianki says to (00:26:50):
Obama lacks courage.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:26:52):
U SELLING MILLION DOLLAR HOMES U BETTER HAVE A CAR THAT REFLECTS THAT
AmericanCitizen says to (00:26:52):
u must be talking about the realtor to the stars@BA
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:26:56):
OR U WON'T SELL
African Warlord X says to (00:27:15):
Peace ! I wont be around long bro. Gotta get up at five. Peace, I better get some sleep
AmericanCitizen says to (00:27:20):
u must be talking about a realtor in LA or NY@BA
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:27:27):
PEACE WARLORD
Pianki says to (00:27:29):
@BA. In that case I see what u mean.
SlimJim says to (00:27:34):
buy a car you can afford and wont depreciate off the bat to about 30%
JoeGoode says to (00:27:38):
Kala, you are being fooled by a obama. He says one thing and does another.
SlimJim says to (00:27:53):
really, tea party? kala!
SlimJim says to (00:27:55):
haha
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:28:06):
IT MAY BE LIMITED PIANKI, BUT A CAR CAN CREATE BUSINESS FOR U
uBpJessie says to (00:28:07):
he does perform double speak
JoeGoode says to (00:28:09):
Tea party = Corporations.
Pianki says to (00:28:22):
Kala I don't agree that the Tea Party is the reason.
uBpJessie says to (00:28:27):
he gets bullied by republicans
SlimJim says to (00:28:37):
how is the tea party who has no control while the dems have been in power since 2006 is to blame?????
JoeGoode says to (00:28:40):
Calling me names now Kala? We want to go there?
Pianki says to (00:28:44):
The Dems had both houses for a whol;e year.
JoeGoode says to (00:28:51):
I understand all of what you says
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:28:52):
PIANKI U ARE A LAWYER U HAVE CLIENTS COMING IN FROM JAPAN U BETTER NOT HAVE A CAB WAITING ON THEM
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:29:01):
U NEED A LIMO
Pianki says to (00:29:15):
@BA. Nor a motorcycle
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:29:20):
LOL
JoeGoode says to (00:29:44):
obama = clarence thomas light
Pianki says to (00:30:05):
I bought Siganture Series Town cars @BA
Mr Holipsism says to (00:30:32):
(})
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:30:35):
CARS ARE 90'S
uBpJessie says to (00:30:38):

(})
Kalagenesis says (00:30:46):
MR Holipsism
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:30:48):
TOWN CARS
AmericanCitizen says to (00:30:54):
u can rent a luxury car if u live in a big city for a client@BA
SlimJim says to (00:30:54):
the tea party said to not raise the debt limit and cut taxes... so the dem controled gov decided to not rasie taxes and increase the debt limit.. and somehow its the tea parties fault???? how stupid can u be?
Pianki says to (00:30:56):
Yes
Mr Holipsism says to (00:31:03):
Peace Kala, Jessie
Pianki says to (00:31:08):
@BA. Smooth Ride.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:31:16):
YES, PIANKI
uBpJessie says to (00:31:16):
peace Mr. Holip
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:31:23):
FORD IS PHASING OUT THE TOWN CAR
Mr Holipsism says to (00:31:29):
Good Evening, Fam
JoeGoode says to (00:31:38):
He says one thing and does another. Consistently
Mr Holipsism says to (00:31:38):
Did you get my PM?
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:31:42):
I WAS IN NEW YORK LAST WEEKEND
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:31:55):
LIVERY SERVICES ARE NOW USING ESCALADES
Pianki says to (00:31:57):
I don't like the Fed Gov telling people they have to have Ins.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:32:02):
I RODE ONE
SlimJim says to (00:32:03):
Kala.. you are mow lying! you have said plain and simple that you voted for obama and will vote for him cuz his is black.. stop it
Pianki says to (00:32:05):
For their health
JoeGoode says to (00:32:52):
95% voted for obama - yet we can't ask him to do for us.
SlimJim says to (00:33:00):
funny how people will say anything at a given point
Pianki says to (00:33:07):
I have never liked McCain. He would be bombing anything that moved.
Pianki says to (00:33:34):
96%
uBpJessie says to (00:33:39):
Is there a way to put the initiative for green energy implementation out of the politician hands?
SlimJim says to (00:33:55):
kala once said, "yes.. obamas black and my black ass will be voting for him in 2012 no matter what"
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:34:16):
TO EACH HIS REACH
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:34:26):
IF I CAN'T COP IT AIN'T MINE TO HAVE
Pianki says to (00:35:24):
In Calif. Latinos verbally said they were gonna take over South Central L.A and they did. The mayor is Latino and he does things for Latinos and not ashame to tell it.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:35:25):
U MAY NOT GET EVERYTHING U WORK FOR, BUT U WILL WORK FOR EVERYTHING U GET--FREDERICK DOUGLAS
SlimJim says to (00:35:30):
i vote for black candidates all the time.. i vote for ideas, not epidermis
JoeGoode says to (00:35:57):
Jews vote for a canidate and expect and get something in return
SlimJim says to (00:36:09):
that sounds familiar
Pianki says to (00:36:29):
Some of these Negros Politicians are not worth the time of day.
JoeGoode says to (00:36:50):
We vote for someone and we get nothing and shouldn't demand anything?
Pianki says to (00:36:51):
@Jegoode. Right
SlimJim says to (00:36:51):
some whites are not either
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:36:58):
I KNOW MR. HOLIP WILL BE IN HARLEM THIS WEEKEND
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:37:23):
SUPPORT THE DEC. 12TH MOV'T
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:37:28):
WHATEVER THAT IS
AmericanCitizen says to (00:37:39):
WATCH OUT FOR THE FLASH MOBS IF U COME TO PHILLY@BA
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:37:59):
I AM SURPRISED MR. HOLIP U NOT IN LONDON WITH THE AFRICANS
Pianki says to (00:38:07):
If they recind the federal reserve act first.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:38:19):
AC WAS IN PHILLY THIS WEEK
AmericanCitizen says to (00:38:19):
the flash mobs of young black kids have been attacking tourists in center city philly on the weekend.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:38:29):
AT THE PHILLY ZOO
SlimJim says to (00:38:49):
i know many.. many! places that are black-owned and have made it clear that whites are not allowed.. so i just dont go there
Mr Holipsism says to (00:38:50):
I don't fear the Tea Party. As a matter of fact, because I like Barack Obama, I think he shouldn't even run for a 2nd term.
JoeGoode says to (00:39:11):
BA always want to start something :D
Mr Holipsism says to (00:39:30):
Give this steaming pile of boo-sit country back to white folks. Let a white man be President when this *** crashes to the ground
JoeGoode says to (00:39:32):
I agree with you Mr. H
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:39:38):
HEY I AIN'T MICHAEL JACKSON
ImhotepVII says to (00:39:40):
WOW!!!!@ Kala
SlimJim says to (00:39:40):
hell, i know parts of the damn city that white peopple best not go.. so what is to be done? just not go there
JoeGoode says to (00:40:09):
Obama = Dinkins 2
Pianki says to (00:40:10):
@Imhotep. Peace
ImhotepVII says to (00:40:22):
Peace Pianki
Pianki says to (00:40:28):
Ahhh Dinkins
Mr Holipsism says to (00:40:50):
There is something to be said for hard core oppression, Kala. It may have been rough in the 60's but at least we knew who we were and who the enemy was.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:41:03):
MORE HATE WHITEY HUH
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:41:16):
I TOLD U WHITE FOLKS AIN'T ALL THAT
Pianki says to (00:41:18):
Obama should bomb France.
SlimJim says to (00:41:39):
enemy now? the enemy within...
Mr Holipsism says to (00:41:43):
Personally, if my house is on fire and I'm asleep, I don't need a skilled violinist (politician). I need somebody to ring the damn fire alarm
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:41:56):
I HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND THE ENEMY IS ME
ImhotepVII says to (00:42:00):
Yes, that is what the Patriot Act did. I made EVERYONE a potential "threat"
Pianki says to (00:42:08):
That hate whittey stuff is played out waste of time. White males have become a morron.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:42:21):
TRUE
SlimJim says to (00:42:24):
right on BA
AmericanCitizen says to (00:42:29):
and obama renewed the patriot act allowing for the enemy combatant clause to stand
Mr Holipsism says to (00:42:49):
Barack Obama is a distraction and is irrelevant.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:42:49):
TO EACH HIS REACH
Pianki says to (00:42:56):
Obama is afraid of the Pentago Crew.
JoeGoode says to (00:43:10):
Have to fix a computer (I am working now). Will be right back, hopefully before the show ends
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:43:27):
MAKE YOUR MONEY JOE
Mr Holipsism says to (00:43:35):
This is all a dog and pony show. Especially that Steve Harvey Tavis Smiley things
Mr Holipsism says to (00:43:49):
Both are full of crap
Pianki says to (00:44:16):
I listened to Smilley and West on a discussion about the "POOR" and I could not figure out who they were talking about.
SlimJim says to (00:44:17):
if youre in a canoe about to go over a cliff, would u rather have a search party or a paddle?
SlimJim says to (00:44:35):
i'll take a paddle
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:44:39):
THE BEST THING U CAN DO FOR THE POOR IS NOT BECOME ONE OF THEM
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:44:45):
THAT'S REV. IKE FOR U
Mr Holipsism says to (00:44:46):
The poor. lol. The only things black folks are poor in is CONSCIOUSNESS
SlimJim says to (00:45:05):
i dont believe in poor people
SlimJim says to (00:45:13):
no such thing in my mind
Mr Holipsism says to (00:45:29):
Wow....I'm actually agreeing with Slim Jim. 8-|
Pianki says to (00:45:37):
Forget that.
Mr Holipsism says to (00:45:37):
WTF???!!!
SlimJim says to (00:45:53):
i know about being broke and know it exists...poor is a way of life signifying futility
Mr Holipsism says to (00:45:54):
lol
ImhotepVII says to (00:45:55):
I have to admit, I stop using the term "conscious" because too many fake "Djehuti Ra Cosmic Allahs" have made it a joke
Pianki says to (00:46:21):
LoL
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:46:39):
NO SUCH THING AS BEING REALLY BROKE IN THE USA
Pianki says to (00:46:49):
Kala how about Herman McCain?
ImhotepVII says to (00:47:00):
It's almost like 'Conscious=Still doing massa's will'
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:47:05):
WELFARE, SOC. SECUR., DISABILITY, TAKES CARE OF IT
SlimJim says to (00:47:38):
broke just means u have no money at the time.. poor means you have given in to the idea that you will be broke the rest of your life
ImhotepVII says to (00:47:50):
Yes@Kala
AmericanCitizen says to (00:47:50):
once the govt. goes bankrupt all those govt. entitlements will evaporate@BA
Pianki says to (00:47:57):
@Slim. True
Mr Holipsism says to (00:48:02):
Slim Jim is on a roll!
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:48:06):
JUST PRINT MORE $$$
Mr Holipsism says to (00:48:08):
I agree once again
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:48:16):
UNTIL IT BECOMES TOILET PAPER
Pianki says to (00:48:27):
Go Slim Go Slim Go Slim
ImhotepVII says to (00:48:31):
@Kala They are scared and don't know any better
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:48:42):
THE MIGHTY USA WILL NEVER FALL
Mr Holipsism says to (00:48:45):
govt entitlements. Hmmmm...would that include corporate welfare?
AmericanCitizen says to (00:48:47):
which leads to hyper inflation further expanding the debt and causing the dollar to lose its purchasing power
Kalagenesis says (00:48:55):
The USA is a joke
Mr Holipsism says to (00:48:57):
Bail outs?
SlimJim says to (00:49:07):
oh, by the way.. is this this country is broke.. and on its way to being poor
Mr Holipsism says to (00:49:10):
Too Big to Fail?
Pianki says to (00:49:11):
The U.S Dollar is a Joke
SlimJim says to (00:49:23):
unless some shiit changes
AmericanCitizen says to (00:49:29):
if the dollar becomes like the peso the USA will fall--it will take 2000 dollars to buy a loaf of bread
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:49:38):
YEA THE DOLLAR IS WEAK IS JJ FROM GOOD TIMES
Mr Holipsism says to (00:49:52):
Peace Thomas!
Pianki says to (00:49:55):
I am happy to see the U.S come down and break into pieces. Now the little guy can take one and run with it.
Pianki says to (00:50:10):
LoL
ImhotepVII says to (00:50:29):
@BA THis country is large, too large. It becomes like a collapsing star. Massive, bringht, but its fuel is running out. It eventually becomes a black hole
SlimJim says to (00:50:40):
interestin idea Piaki.. sounds like full circle.. something like... we the people?
ImhotepVII says to (00:50:41):
bright*
Mr Holipsism says to (00:50:42):
ROME
ImhotepVII says to (00:50:51):
@Mr. Holipsim YEP
Mr Holipsism says to (00:50:53):
We've seen this before
ImhotepVII says to (00:51:00):
Greece
Mr Holipsism says to (00:51:02):
exactly @ Imhotep
ImhotepVII says to (00:51:03):
Babylon
SlimJim says to (00:51:12):
Rome
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:51:19):
WE MUST FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE USA
Mr Holipsism says to (00:51:21):
The entire idea of an EMPIRE is boo-sit
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:51:27):
IT WILL NOT FALL
Mr Holipsism says to (00:51:34):
you cannot maintain an Empire. It is sheer vanity
ImhotepVII says to (00:51:37):
Empires ALWAYS fall. It's thier nature
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:51:37):
THE FALL OF AMERICA DOES NOT EXIST
Mr Holipsism says to (00:51:44):
and they always FALL HARD
Pianki says to (00:51:46):
Those Oligarchy ploarchy need to be brought to justice and put to death.
SlimJim says to (00:52:00):
(... and the band kept playing)
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:52:01):
THE USA IS REINVENTING ITSELF--GET ON BOARD MY BROTHERS
ImhotepVII says to (00:52:01):
@BA In what dimension?
Mr Holipsism says to (00:52:04):
Next up....The good Ol' U.S. of A
Mr Holipsism says to (00:52:15):
:D
AmericanCitizen says to (00:52:19):
if that dollar losess its value --the USA will fall
AmericanCitizen says to (00:52:24):
loses
ImhotepVII says to (00:52:43):
Here in 3-D Universe, empires FALL
Pianki says to (00:53:02):
If they do another Quanitive Easing the dollar will lose it value further.
ImhotepVII says to (00:53:07):
Not that I hope it happens, but any empire built on bloodshed ALWAYS falls
Mr Holipsism says to (00:53:11):
The dollar is backed by nuclear weapons. You trade with us or you die is the U.S. Motto.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:53:12):
THE USA CURRENCY IS INTERWOVEN ON A GLOBAL SCALE
Mr Holipsism says to (00:53:26):
any empire PERIOD always fails
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:53:26):
IF THE DOLLAR FALLS, THE WORLD FALLS
Kalagenesis says (00:53:27):
BA:D
SlimJim says to (00:53:33):
i hear ya BA.. love what ur saying but until i see some change in the over-increasing central government, we have a hard road ahead
AmericanCitizen says to (00:53:51):
no the dollar is the reserve currency with the IMF which can be easily changed
Mr Holipsism says to (00:53:54):
History is not on the side of the U.S. of A.
Pianki says to (00:53:58):
China warned Obama about the military spending.
ImhotepVII says to (00:53:59):
@BA Sooooo, where's Rome? Babylon? Greece? They were mighty empires.
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:54:04):
SLIMJIM, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY TIME!
AmericanCitizen says to (00:54:17):
the brazilian currency the real is almost equivalent in value to the dollar now
ImhotepVII says to (00:54:21):
They went the way of the Dodo bird
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:54:34):
THIS IS A TIME TO GET OUT IN FRONT INVEST IN AMERICA
Kalagenesis says (00:54:36):
Ocean meets the sand
Pianki says to (00:54:44):
@AC where is Perry?
Mr Holipsism says to (00:54:46):
Did anybody read about the war between Russia and Afghanistan? The exact same scenario is being played out again in the exact same way. Does anybody read anymore?
Kalagenesis says (00:54:46):
Coming from near and far
ImhotepVII says to (00:54:49):
YES!@Kala
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:54:55):
KALA WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
Kalagenesis says (00:54:55):
Hand in Hand
AmericanCitizen says to (00:55:01):
his computer broke down@pianki
ImhotepVII says to (00:55:04):
I'm getting homesick. :D
Kalagenesis says (00:55:12):
AFRICAN AMERICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM
SlimJim says to (00:55:17):
is this air supply singing?
Pianki says to (00:55:22):
Ok, though he was sick from the heat.
ImhotepVII says to (00:55:23):
LOL@Slim
ImhotepVII says to (00:55:26):
no bro
Kalagenesis says (00:55:31):
ONE DAY WE WILL BE A NATION
ImhotepVII says to (00:55:32):
Slayer
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:55:38):
OH THEY GON' PLAY THIS AT THE MAYWEATHER/PACAQUAIO FIGHT
ImhotepVII says to (00:55:38):
:D
AmericanCitizen says to (00:55:42):
the us currency is a fiat currency which has a relative value according to international banks
Kalagenesis says (00:55:42):
IT IS INEVITABLE
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:55:47):
WHAT DO U THINK MR. HOLIP
Pianki says to (00:55:50):
Know something is ready to go down now with whites sing that kind of song.
Pianki says to (00:56:03):
Drums too
ImhotepVII says to (00:56:20):
I was kidding about Slayer :D
SlimJim says to (00:56:21):
a great song knows when to end
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:56:48):
THE HISPANICS WILL SAVE AMERICA
Pianki says to (00:56:49):
Did you shed tears Kala
Mr Holipsism says to (00:57:00):
Ceasar: APES WILL RISE!
Mr Holipsism says to (00:57:11):
Boot lickin Ape: Get back in your cage!
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:57:16):
SOUNDS LIKE THE SILVERS OF THE 70'S
ImhotepVII says to (00:57:17):
lol
Pianki says to (00:57:22):
Hispanics are multiplying like a math problem gone wrong.
ImhotepVII says to (00:57:31):
I'm ready to warp out
BlackAchievement USA says to (00:57:32):
A BUBBLE GUM ANTHEMN
ImhotepVII says to (00:57:51):
Fold space and then find myself on Africa's shores
Pianki says to (00:57:59):
yeah 1:00 A.M
ImhotepVII says to (00:58:44):
Here's the new American anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89h-X-tZa_w
Pianki says to (00:58:48):
Ha Ha Ha
Pianki says to (00:58:57):
Ohh Bagel U Sea
SlimJim says to (00:59:41):
i'd go back to ireland, but dammit.. i cant think of football without the pigskin, huge ass lineman, and the frail white boy kickin the pint after...
Pianki says to (00:59:45):
That sound like Hunch Back of Notre Dame music
SlimJim says to (01:00:05):
football in ireland is soccer.. that dont work
SlimJim says to (01:00:43):
but i do like the dark beer and irish whiskey
Pianki says to (01:00:46):
opps
AmericanCitizen says to (01:00:50):
(})
ImhotepVII says to (01:01:25):
Peace all. Cya tomorrow
Mr Holipsism says to (01:01:31):
I'm taking a personal Black Achievement Protest. Anytime he gets on the line I'm getting my hat and tippin' out. The boat has sailed on his integrity and sincerity.
SlimJim says to (01:01:32):
peace.. take care
Mr Holipsism says to (01:01:36):
Peace Family.
Mr Holipsism says to (01:01:39):
Peace Kala
ImhotepVII says to (01:01:53):
Peace Holipsism
Mr Holipsism says to (01:02:01):
Peace Imhotep

Bitter seeds,Bitter soil equals Bitter Harvest

In the Bible it is taught that you shall be known by the fruits you bear.Just as one of my recent post 'Strange Fruit'a tree or any harvest starts from a seed or a soil.How thoses seeds are keeped nurtchured are how the plant will turn out.We see this parallel in our human family.With almost without exception the examples of this reigns true.When a mother is loving and caring the child is more likely to grow up the same way.We see this in sports,politics,entertainment ect.The problem we as a people are facing is too many of us are planting bitter seeds and we are reaping a bitter harvest.
The level of discord in Black America is genocide
What makes kids kill other kids for the fun of it?What would posess a group of kids to beat a 46 year old man half to death?You see we in America and Black America can talk all day about lack of opportunity ect,but why the destructive self hate?Why do we buy into a society that says your not attractive?Why do we accept second class citizenship and proudly pass it along to the next generation?Is it no wonder why our children are angry and out of control?Although the mainstream Black Media tries its best to put up a nice face of our community,beneath the surface lies division and unresolved conflict left over from slavery.There is jealousy,envy,self hate,classism,ect.These things are planted in the people from generation after generation.We see this being played out on the internet the one place where you get honest diologue amony our people.
Lets begin to plant the sweet seeds of love
Yes we must begin to plant the seeds of love,unity,community,brotherhood in order for us to survive.When our artist,musicians,writers and thinkers present their works to us,we need to scrutinize what they are messaging to us.We have to recognize that the enemies of our people dont want to see love peace and happiness in our community.It is a threat to them and their dominance of us.

Tavis the Smiling coon.

Recently Senator Barack Obama captured the hearts and minds of the vast majority of African Americans.For a people who are only given illiterate rap singers,ball players and professional fools to look up to and identify with,Obama seems like a godsend.This popularity has brought out the snakes in Black America.Most of us regular people are shocked that the self hate,jealousy,and evil some so called leaders have are trying to undermine his chances for the presidency.We would have expected this from right wing nuts,but from our own people?For personal gain?These traitors have made a fatal mistake.Thanks to the internet,blogs talk radio the real voices of the community is being heard.And what they are hearing is sending them into a terrifying shock.It is one thing to say I disagree with the Senator,but to undermine him out of envy?You may ask how did this happen?I have been saying this for years,that the so called people who claim to speak for us are chosen by outside forces and don't have a clue about what the average Black person thinks.On the net we hear what people are saying.We are not this monolith, but a diverse people with diverse opinion.No so called leader fully represents us.That is the media image making machine.
The person in the Kalagenesis focus tonight is syndicated talk show and television show/author Tavis Smiley.Now I have been following Tavis for some time I remember when he came out with his first book the New Left,I read it,he had some good points in it.But even back then I thought he was kind of fishing for an audience,not having a core value system.This all changed when he got on BET,still his style was not the traditional Black host it was more free bird.He had porn star Heather Hunter on interviewing her giving her prime time and legitimacy.Her career has not stopped since.Recently he took the bold step in bringing all the old time who's who of Black America to "solve" our "problems".Now if you sucked up to Tavis and his crew you got invited.Now you were a big shot in the who's who of Black leadership.Not that anything will ever be accomplished,but the main thing is these people feeeel gooood!They feel like they are doing something and Tavis rights a book and he is the go to person for anyone who want to loot or exploit us economically,socially or politically.There is just one problem no one has ever asked the masses of Black people who should be their spokesperson.Tavis is on spent time and we the Black bloggers are going to show him and the rest of these bought and sold self hating traitors they cant sell us out anymore.
Tavis Smiley decides to convene the Black America State of the Union.I think its 5th year.Point is this meeting was probably good before the Jena six and the growth of Black bloggers.Tavis says he now knows what the heat these bloggers can bring.So what is this all about.It turns out mysteriously he happens to invite Obama on to "address"Black America and discuss "our"issues.Obama said because he is in a heated contest in the next three states,his time is already spent.That was not good enough for the self described emperor of the Blacks.He seemed ready to attack Obama's Black credibility because of it.He miscalculated,Black people are furious.He is now receiving death threats,and hate mail.Black congressmen are changing their support for Clinton,to Obama or neutral.Barack Obama even said he would send his wife Michelle Obama but that was not good enough for Smiley.In light of all of this the question that needs to be asked who is Tavis working for?The answer is the Clintons.This smells of the dirty Clinton tactics and their Black shoe shine boys.John Lewis,Al Sharpton,Bob Johnson.Enough is enough vote for Obama and let free our selves from the traitors and coons who mislead us.


This gentleman dropped it on this subject:

I guess Tavis sees his show as some "official" arm of the election process in which a spouse is neither appropriate nor worthy. Otherwise, why wasn't Michelle Obama an appropriate surrogate for her husband or even a guest worthy of consideration just based on her own merit to discuss the so-called State of Black Americans? Is Hillary Clinton more well-versed on this topic now than Michelle?

And why would a politically astute representative of any constituency risk snubbing the next potential "first lady" and her husband?

Spare me, please, from well-paid televised Negroes who believe they have arrived and therefore can boldly speak for everyone just because they own a mike.

Too bad about not allowing Michelle Obama to appear. I actually would have tuned in to Tavis' "televised" airing of black dirty laundry this year, for a change. I wouldn't have been able to resist the once in a lifetime opportunity to see Michelle Obama take on Hillary Clinton. What a treat that would have been; I feel robbed.

Too bad that Tavis' ego and his inclination to feel personally "snubbed" whenever he is told "no" got in the way of him achieving a major media moment. The media moguls who give him financial backing may well make him re-visit this short-sighted decision so they can maximize returns on their investment in him and this otherwise meaningless annual list-making undertaking.

This all feels too much like grand-standing on Tavis' part, to show that he can pull presidential candidates off the campaign trail in a tightly contested race to attend "his" special events-- as though he has not already had the honor of hosting two televised presidential debates this campaign season. Tavis wants to be a king-maker, the go-to man, and the authoritative mouthpiece for Black America, and it's getting a little tiring.

For me, it's not so much that he hasn't endorsed Senator Obama-- whom I do support wholeheartedly as the best candidate for our country at this point in history. I think Tavis has the right to abstain or to endorse whomever he chooses in this race. But it is his claim of being "neutral" that is annoying to me, while he also serves as the double-sided mouthpiece and hate operative for the Clintons.

With black folks being the target audience that sustains Tavis' media business, he seems too cowardly to come out and support The Clintons against Barack, especially as Barack has earned increasing popularity among black voters. So he pretends to be a "neutral journalist" while consistently planting seeds of doubt about Barack's "black" credentials-- whatever that means in this day and age.

Black people in general and Tavis in particular need to stop marginalizing ourselves as though we are incapable of caring about any other issues or people on the planet besides ourselves. That is small-minded and self-defeating. And God made us bigger than that.

It is his willingness to embrace his greatness that attracts me to Senator Obama. It is his boldness to speak in a broad and healing voice that resonates with the human soul. It is his ability to appeal to and bring forth the best in human nature that makes his leadership transformational. And transformational leadership is what our country needs after 16 years of anger, fear, and confusion.


Tavis went through a bad time a few years back when his show was dropped by BET after Bob Johnson sold that network. Considering their now obvious connections with Bob Johnson, I just wonder how The Clintons might have also played into helping Tavis to get back on his feet after his BET incident. The Clintons are very astute about collecting "friends" and "debtors" who can later be "useful" to them politically, and I suspect Tavis is among them.

Hillary Clinton is an intelligent woman and a capable politician but she and her husband have already served "their" two-term limit. To ask for more and so soon is greedy. It is asking Americans to support a dynasty at a time when we should be trying to act once again like some form of a democracy.

Bush-Clinton2-Bush2-Clinton? And this does not include the two-term VP stint of Bill's good friend, Daddy Bush. Let's hope Tavis inquires about that pattern of national leadership. Why is it that in a country of 300 million people we must be governed for 3 decades by the same two families-- the Bushes and the Clintons? Why is it that in 40 years, and 10 presidential terms, the Democrats have only been able to win 3 terms-- one through Carter and two through Clinton; while now reaching again for another Clinton? Black folks have always been a loyal vehicle for Democrats to ride into the White House, with no accountability for that loyalty. So, I ask that Tavis ask these such questions of his friend, Mrs. Clinton.

Or, are these kinds of broader questions beyond the thinking capacity of black folks?

Thank you.

Dr. N. J. Tate
Charleston, SC
February 17, 2008 5:21 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings Brothers and Sisters;

I appreciate many of the thoughtful remarks that so many took the time to write. Although I don’t have much faith in the American political and economic systems in terms of improving the lives of most African Americans, I really hope that Senator Obama gets the Democratic nomination and makes it to the White House. I view Obama’s run as truly historical, in terms of electoral politics, but not to be compared with the historical relevance of such greats as Malcolm or Martin. I understand Senator Obama is a politician, and as such, he will make compromises that King or Martin would never make and never have to make. Still, based on his record, I give him the benefit of the doubt that he will do more, or attempt to do more, for us than most if not all of the white politicians would, including the Clintons (although I liked Dennis Kucinich’s platform). Some presidents, such as Bush have made the lives of many of us worst off (by the War in Iraq, court appointments, and cuts in social programs). In my opinion, no President, including Bill Clinton, has really improved the lives of most African Americans. Too many of us gave Bill Clinton unconditionally support (until his recent race baiting). But remember, Bill Clinton signed the “three strikes and you are out” legislation that affects mainly African Americans, initiated welfare “reform” that hurt the poor, and approved the unjustified bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan, an African country based on erroneous intelligence data that it was a weapons factory. Hillary’s Clinton’s appearance at the State of the Black Union will be because she needs more African American votes, not because of her love or concern for African Americans.

Obama has to strike a delicate balance of trying to attract white support without alienating the Black community. In terms of his securing the democratic nomination, it is more critical for him to campaign in those states where the primary elections are still upcoming. If he is to be elected, he needs more white and Latino votes in those states. He is already carrying over 80% of the African American vote. I do not interpret his absence at the State of the Black Union Conference to be a snub of Tavis or African Americans. Don’t you critics realize that the man is running for President? If he is to run a smart election, then the first thing he needs to concentrate on is getting elected. And he can’t do that just on African American votes. (Is Obama’s absence at the SOBU Conference any different from Tavis Smiley holding his book signing in the New Orleans area at a white owned Barnes and Noble Store on the outskirts of New Orleans rather than at a Black owned book store such as the Community Book Store in New Orleans that is trying to reestablish clientele after Katrina?)

I have always tuned in to the State of the Black Union Conference on C Span, and I registered to attend this year’s conference for the first time, and the day of service that precedes it to help rebuild New Orleans. I know that I will honor my commitment for the day of service. At this point, I am still pondering whether or not to attend the conference itself because of Tavis’ actions concerning Obama. I would appreciate your feedback on attending State of the Black Union.

Peace and Love,
A Brother on the Bayou
February 17, 2008 7:44 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please sign the petition online to PBS to rid us all of Tavis and his hatred toward the one black man that has EVER gotten this close to the Presidency. He needs to get the hell out of our way!

Sign it and share it! Let this petition speed around the net just like Tavis' hateration towards Obama did.

http://www.petitiononline.com/notavis/petition.html
February 17, 2008 10:09 PM
Blogger YesWeCan_Change4daBest said...

I agree with Dr. Tate from Charleston, SC. I too would have enjoyed watching the State of the Black Union with Michelle Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton... a missed opportunity.
When did Hillary accept Tavis invite to participate in the State of the Black Union? After Feb. 5th?
Another point. Seems like our Sharpton, Jackson Sr, and Smiley "leaders" have lost their voices in supporting a man pursuing what they have failed to achieve themselves. Where is the Keep Hope Alive voice? It makes me wonder: Are they that closely tied to the Clintons? Are they afraid of becoming irrelevant? The Reverends should be singing praises and clapping with joy, why the whisper.
Note, many white women on TV say that they are voting for Hillary because she is a woman (period). A role model for my daughter they say. Why are we Blacks shame to say that we are voting for Obama because he is Black, a role model for our sons and daughters. Barkley said it however, and good for him. Why hold ourselves to a higher standard against ourselves? Don't think we are good enuf yet? We are good enuf and then some! If we know our long history on this earth, then you know I am speaking the truth.

Back to the Clintons. How much do you want to bet that Hillary will pull the sympathy card... Will she cry again? 3x? Bill Clinton said read my lips. I did not have sex with that woman. What do you want in the White House? Transparency. Truthfulness. Integrity.
February 17, 2008 10:34 PM
Blogger YesWeCan_Change4daBest said...

Check out Roland Martin's comment on the matter of which I totally agree. http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/02/roland-s-mart-6.html (cut and paste url)
Reading it, I found out that Hillary accepted after Feb 5th, ie., when she realized the battle in front of her, rather than a cake walk.

"By the way, when people say that black issues are being ignored in the campaign, they are wrong.

The Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, the nation's most prestigious think tank devoted to African American issues, released a survey showing that the top issues to blacks are the war in Iraq; healthcare; jobs and the economy; and education."
February 17, 2008 11:10 PM

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