Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Getting Serious about Black Businesses.Special Guest. 05/02 by Kalagenesis | Blog Talk Radio

Getting Serious about Black Businesses.Special Guest. 05/02 by Kalagenesis | Blog Talk Radio*** (22:59:08):Welcome to the Kalagenesis Chat Room.
East Coast says to  (23:05:01):
Morning Kala
Kalagenesis says (23:05:41):
Morning East
uBpJessie says to  (23:12:28):
blackbones says to  (23:13:19):
greetings ubp
blackbones says to  (23:13:32):
greetings room
uBpJessie says to  (23:14:37):
hello black
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:16:18):
greetings from the planet earth
uBpJessie says to  (23:16:38):
blackbones says to  (23:17:02):
greetings mike
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:17:33):
whats up black bones
FMC1 says to  (23:18:59):
hey fam
blackbones says to  (23:19:19):
greetings fmc
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:20:15):
the reason why we cant focus on owning anything is because we so busy bitching about racism still when black people are the most racist people in the country,
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:20:29):
so as long as we gonna keep crying about the got damn 60's, nothing will change
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:20:46):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:20:53):
ive worked for a few businesses
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:21:13):
one called COU GROUP INC. \
uBpJessie says to  (23:22:41):
every business should have a website
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:22:42):
wtf i said i used to
blackbones says to  (23:23:00):
i think most of the wheeler dealer types abandoned the black business thing mike
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:23:00):
i didnt say i do now i said i used to
3 Wise Women says to  (23:23:01):
blackbones says to  (23:23:18):
ive met groups of blackfolks years ago who had to front their business off as being white
blackbones says to  (23:23:28):
because blackfolks aint buy black
uBpJessie says to  (23:23:37):
black I won't page them
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:23:50):
its out of business wtf i said i used to it was years ago
uBpJessie says to  (23:24:10):
wise women that site is not working
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:24:12):
u said have i ever worked for a black business, i said yes, i didnt say i do now, ur brain is fried
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:24:21):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:24:25):
i have a black business
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:25:16):
im in marketing,
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:25:28):
i dont sell products
RealiXTee says to  (23:26:17):
tele marketing
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:26:18):
ok well im in marketing
blackbones says to  (23:26:22):
affiliate marketing
blackbones says to  (23:26:29):
internet marketing
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:26:34):
affiliate marketing this dude act like he on crack
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:26:43):
what do u do, what do u do, what do u what do u what do u do
blackbones says to  (23:26:45):
he may no tknow mike
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:26:46):
stop smoking
blackbones says to  (23:27:26):
when i looked at net marketing again i was shocked
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:27:28):
who wants to work for a black company instead of owning your own business and paying taxes,
RealiXTee says to  (23:27:30):
that some real talk kalagenesis...
blackbones says to  (23:27:31):
cause its large now
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:27:45):
i dont want to work for a black business or a white business, i work for me
RealiXTee says to  (23:28:21):
but its hard to make payroll with no line of credit...
blackbones says to  (23:28:38):
back in the day it was just like work on your metatags, start a list, share links, write a few articles and you were set
blackbones says to  (23:28:40):
RealiXTee says to  (23:28:48):
most businesses operate in the red for the first few years
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:29:00):
and i have worked for a real black business back in the day, and they are still in business, Bean Steel
blackbones says to  (23:29:12):
now its like seo, backlinks, articles, blogs, clickbank, warriorforum and the list goes on
RealiXTee says to  (23:29:39):
i have also worked for a black owned business...but there are very few
RealiXTee says to  (23:30:09):
i understand the direction in which kala is taking this...
blackbones says to  (23:30:19):
if u aint making money in a few months in affiliate marketing i would say bandon ship @ realix
blackbones says to  (23:30:22):
RealiXTee says to  (23:30:37):
RealiXTee says to  (23:30:47):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:30:50):
blackbones i made money in the first 3 days, took off from there
blackbones says to  (23:31:06):
i believe it mike
blackbones says to  (23:31:41):
marketing is the way to go
blackbones says to  (23:32:17):
i would say if kala want to do stuff he should get into internet marketing
blackbones says to  (23:32:48):
and will probably change his mind about all that other stuff after he takes the leap
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:33:04):
BlackBones i been in affliate porn marketing since 98, but i dont promote also
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:33:45):
id rather be a legal hustla, than an employee
uBpJessie says to  (23:33:49):
how is pron marketed without being promoted?
RealiXTee says to  (23:33:56):
RealiXTee says to  (23:34:34):
Kalagenesis says (23:34:32):
same here
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:34:43):
what im saying is im in affiliate marketing which i have to promote to people to make money, but the porn side i dont promote to bring people in, i promote it for sales for the affiliate
RealiXTee says to  (23:35:25):
blackbones says to  (23:35:26):
oh i dont mess with porn
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:35:28):
Like if i bring you in my regular affiliate marketing business uBp, ill make a commission, but the porn side i  promote to get sells for the porn company. like if they sign up for a membership
blackbones says to  (23:35:34):
not yet anyways
Kalagenesis says (23:35:49):
uBpJessie says to  (23:35:53):
ah isee, you promote its consumtion
blackbones says to  (23:35:59):
lolol reali
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:36:07):
well nothing like porn money blackbones,
blackbones says to  (23:36:08):
people are not weak they are slow
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:36:15):
blackbones says to  (23:36:38):
i know mike
blackbones says to  (23:36:52):
i was just reading tristans thing mike
blackbones says to  (23:37:13):
40 a pop sounds good to me
blackbones says to  (23:37:15):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:37:17):
blackbones says to  (23:38:40):
tristan bull
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:40:01):
my cousin owns a black business, not a big business but its a black business, he has people on payroll out in Maryland
blackbones says to  (23:40:51):
i think the focus need to be on getting started and not on building an infrasctructure 1st
blackbones says to  (23:43:12):
lol wallstreet
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:43:23):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:43:30):
does this guy breath?
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:43:33):
blackbones says to  (23:43:37):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:43:42):
blackbones says to  (23:43:50):
thats why internet marketing is da shyt
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:43:51):
got damn,
blackbones says to  (23:43:53):
uBpJessie says to  (23:43:57):
the infrastructure is in the networking
blackbones says to  (23:44:12):
its a waste ubp
uBpJessie says to  (23:44:26):
really now?
blackbones says to  (23:44:38):
no im saying kala gotta start at the beginning
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:44:44):
dont know why he acting like getting business credit, a dnb number, and setting up payroll is some big deal anyone can do that with there eyes clothes
blackbones says to  (23:44:52):
how u gonna do something with no doe?
blackbones says to  (23:45:10):
lol true mike
blackbones says to  (23:45:39):
what good is incorporating when u aint got money to incorporate?
blackbones says to  (23:45:41):
MIKE MOSS says to  (23:45:57):

MIKE MOSS says to  (23:46:23):
people think they doing something cause they got business credit or a dnb number, ok big deal, you can find my business online, so what
blackbones says to  (23:46:39):
blackbones says to  (23:47:09):
just need experience
blackbones says to  (23:47:27):
when u gain experience u see it aint a black / white thing
uBpJessie says to  (23:56:31):
my internet is bad tonight
uBpJessie says to  (23:57:27):
what kind of thing is it black?
pumpkin13 says to  (00:04:07):
pumpkin13 says to  (00:05:39):
Maybe people should consider starting an internet based business.
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:06:29):
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:06:38):
thats what i have, no overhead
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:09:33):
www.cashtrial.com , make $50 to $100K from home, just check it out and look at my proof
pumpkin13 says to  (00:09:43):
An internet based business can be a good way to start a business with out the high cost of payroll, rent, etc.
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:10:36):
Mr Wayne says to  (00:10:57):
You got that right about not caring about buying from Black People, in fact, I think most are LOOKING for it, and will welcome more! :)
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:11:31):
my only overhead is my website hosting which is $10.00 a month, and my flyers. I spend about $75 a month for 1000 flyers a month
pumpkin13 says to  (00:12:00):
Good for you Mike....you just may become a guru someday.
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:12:44):
im trying, i know people that make $3000 to $5000 a week doing what i do, but aint there yet
pumpkin13 says to  (00:12:56):
There are many types of business a person can do online.   The affiiate oppurtunity is endless for retail based online business.
pumpkin13 says to  (00:13:36):
Mike, do you do articles that link to your website????
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:14:30):
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:14:58):
i got many people advertising for me and i pay them a portion of my commission from the sells they get off they website
pumpkin13 says to  (00:15:38):
You have affiliates....good for you.
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:16:00):
let me give you an example, look at this, first look at my page and my huge banner www.cashtrial.com
3 Wise Women says to  (00:16:29):
I appreciate the advice being given to go out and hustle.  What I would like to hear is how we can move beyond the hustle to bigger business. The host did an informal survey of the chat room asking about black owned businesses that have a payroll.
3 Wise Women says to  (00:16:46):
If we use payroll as a litmus test, how do we get to THAT level?
pumpkin13 says to  (00:17:08):
Most cannot afford to start a business with payroll, etc.   The internet really does offer a cheaper way to start a legit business.
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:17:23):
Now look at this girl page, she has my banner at the top of her page and she makes money from the sells http://www.tagged.com/evelynstarrxxx
3 Wise Women says to  (00:17:23):
Can we go to a lender and tell them about our flea market hustle and get funding? Or do we hustle hard until we can fund ourselves?
*** (00:18:06):MIKE MOSS is muted by Admin for breaking rules!
Kalagenesis says (00:18:20):
Do not plug porn on this site
pumpkin13 says to  (00:18:48):
Yea Mike, that was not the best example to give folks.
Kalagenesis says (00:19:00):
Hustle and build up wealth
Kalagenesis says (00:19:09):
and cash base.
3 Wise Women says to  (00:19:19):
Then what?
pumpkin13 says to  (00:19:27):
I agree with Kala.....not the best time to be going for loans.
3 Wise Women says to  (00:19:48):
How do we move from self employed to business owner?
Kalagenesis says (00:19:50):
Get a small credit card
Kalagenesis says (00:20:05):
then get a DUNS report
3 Wise Women says to  (00:20:13):
I am not promoting loans, I am seeking SOLUTIONS
pumpkin13 says to  (00:20:35):
You also need a decent portion of your own money for a bank to look at  you for a business loan.  Save that money.
Kalagenesis says (00:20:42):
then you buy your  goods and resell them
Kalagenesis says (00:20:54):
that will build your line of credit
pumpkin13 says to  (00:21:03):
....and sell those goods on line.
Kalagenesis says (00:22:02):
Then you can make bigger purchases and capital goods
Kalagenesis says (00:22:17):
this increases you net worth
3 Wise Women says to  (00:22:33):
Your personal net worth
3 Wise Women says to  (00:22:53):
How do we move to the level of being an employer?
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:22:57):
Forget about bank loans
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:23:09):
Study Marcus Garvey
Kalagenesis says (00:23:19):
You need credit for business
Kalagenesis says (00:23:26):
I read Garvey
FMC1 says to  (00:23:36):
not like they give us much of those anyways
3 Wise Women says to  (00:23:39):
I mentioned loans merely as an example.  The point is small business is not building our cimmunities
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:23:53):
3 Wise Women says to  (00:23:55):
FMC1 says to  (00:23:56):
i agree wise women
Kalagenesis says (00:23:58):
Lines of credit from a CD
pumpkin13 says to  (00:24:09):
You can always invest back into your community when you make enough money with your business.
FMC1 says to  (00:24:13):
but it doesn't hurt
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:24:34):
Correct the community is the heart of the business
FMC1 says to  (00:24:39):
pumpkin were talking longterm
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:24:42):
i didnt promote porn in your room, tagged.com is a social network like facebook and they do not allow porn, just because you see xxx does not mean its porn, its a members page promoting my service thats it
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:24:52):
you jumping the gun,
Kalagenesis says (00:24:51):
3 Wise Women says to  (00:24:58):
Minority firms now comprise 21% of the nation’s 27 million small businesses. We are growing faster than other firms. Why aren;t we feeling that in our communities?
pumpkin13 says to  (00:25:08):
FMC.....longterm isn't in the picture until the short term is a success.
Kalagenesis says (00:25:28):
That is Minorites Asiana and Mexicans and Arabs
3 Wise Women says to  (00:25:40):
OK...how do we define SUCCESS?
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:25:52):
Minority includes many ethnicities, and all women
FMC1 says to  (00:25:54):
how much is that 21% black?
MIKE MOSS says to  (00:26:09):
success is defines however u define it, no one can do that for you and you shoudl not try and live up to what others think
pumpkin13 says to  (00:26:13):
I define success by making a profit.   What amount of profit would be up to the person.
FMC1 says to  (00:26:16):
but I think u do hav to work ur way up
pumpkin13 says to  (00:27:51):
I am not sure FMC if we are looking at it different or not.
FMC1 says to  (00:27:51):
not me but pumpkin isn't part of our community
FMC1 says to  (00:28:01):
FMC1 says to  (00:28:11):
she a fan of kala
FMC1 says to  (00:28:21):
but not a black person
pumpkin13 says to  (00:28:45):
Your right FMC, I am not a Black person.
pumpkin13 says to  (00:29:12):
With that said, we can all talk about starting a business and the problems that come along with that.
FMC1 says to  (00:30:00):
didn't say u cudn't
pumpkin13 says to  (00:30:16):
FMC, if you have a business or where to start a business...would you only allow Black people to be clients/customers??????????
FMC1 says to  (00:30:36):
FMC1 says to  (00:31:14):
Depends on the business type
pumpkin13 says to  (00:31:15):
My point is....if you have a business.....all people are part of yoru community.
FMC1 says to  (00:31:25):
FMC1 says to  (00:31:29):
not all
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:31:32):
pumpkin13 says to  (00:31:34):
You want all colors of skin to buy your product or service.
FMC1 says to  (00:31:36):
but they wud be customers
FMC1 says to  (00:31:45):
but they are not my community
FMC1 says to  (00:32:11):
I have my reasons for going into business
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:32:12):
when we spend money with others we are just customers, not community members
pumpkin13 says to  (00:32:15):
If you have the attitude, when in busiiness, that only certain people are part of your community you will not do well in business.
FMC1 says to  (00:32:30):
Oh well
FMC1 says to  (00:32:37):
I'm being honest
pumpkin13 says to  (00:33:15):
If you want to be a success.....longterm....you want to welcome all to your product or service.   You cannot play the game of our differences and be a big success.
FMC1 says to  (00:33:22):
I'm about getting ur money that's it
FMC1 says to  (00:33:26):
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:33:41):
pumpkin13 says to  (00:34:09):
As you should FMC....you want me to buy from you and all others.   As a customer...you start with the attitude that I am not welcome because I am not Black, well, you will lose customers.
FMC1 says to  (00:34:23):
What are u talking about?
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:34:47):
define community
FMC1 says to  (00:34:51):
You can buy anything you want
FMC1 says to  (00:35:00):
no one said u cant
FMC1 says to  (00:35:07):
you're getting it twisted
pumpkin13 says to  (00:35:15):
There is your business community and your town/city community.
FMC1 says to  (00:35:44):
pumpkin u're got it twisted then
pumpkin13 says to  (00:35:57):
I am not sure what you mean by that FMC.
FMC1 says to  (00:36:05):
I made it clear anyone can buy products from black businesses
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:36:21):
You can spend with the Cherokee Nation, but that will not make you a  Cherokee
pumpkin13 says to  (00:36:42):
This show is suppose to be about Black people and business.  I think we can all agree on that.
FMC1 says to  (00:36:47):
We are going to kick u out
FMC1 says to  (00:36:50):
FMC1 says to  (00:36:58):
if u come in the store lmao
Kalagenesis says (00:37:10):
pumpkin13 says to  (00:37:38):
FMC made the point when we were discussing this topic that I am not a member of his/her community.  My point is that  a person will not go far with that attitude in the world of business.
Pianki says to  (00:37:38):
Hey Kala
Kalagenesis says (00:37:45):
Hey Pianki
FMC1 says to  (00:38:02):
pumpkin i mean the African Community
FMC1 says to  (00:38:12):
Are you an African?
pumpkin13 says to  (00:38:25):
Are you from Africa FMC?
FMC1 says to  (00:38:49):
FMC1 says to  (00:38:58):
African and black are the same
pumpkin13 says to  (00:39:08):
Sorry, I thought you were in the USA.  What country are you living in?
FMC1 says to  (00:39:16):
no different than Asians or mexicans
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:39:21):
Black is global
FMC1 says to  (00:39:23):
I live in the US
pumpkin13 says to  (00:39:32):
Were you born in the USA or a country in Africa?
Kalagenesis says (00:39:42):
FMC1 says to  (00:40:00):
I dont need to be born in africa
FMC1 says to  (00:40:09):
Asians dont need to be born in asia
pumpkin13 says to  (00:40:14):
Hmm, you must be a citizen of the USA then FMC.
Pianki says to  (00:40:24):
The strong points of our history should not be to build self esteem of what we did do but what we are doing and what we are about to do.
pumpkin13 says to  (00:40:25):
I am also a citizen of the USA.
FMC1 says to  (00:40:25):
Is africa a country?
FMC1 says to  (00:40:28):
FMC1 says to  (00:40:49):
It's a continent therefore I am African (african American)
pumpkin13 says to  (00:41:03):
Africa is a continent.
FMC1 says to  (00:41:06):
I know
pumpkin13 says to  (00:41:18):
Still makes you a citizen of the USA.
FMC1 says to  (00:41:21):
pumpkin13 says to  (00:41:24):
Just like me.
FMC1 says to  (00:41:30):
I'm African by race
FMC1 says to  (00:41:41):
USA is a nationality
pumpkin13 says to  (00:41:51):
You are still a USA citizen, just like me.
FMC1 says to  (00:41:55):
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:42:20):
The Black church has the power to transform the community
FMC1 says to  (00:42:25):
I'm not talking nationality I'm talking Cultural ethnic group
pumpkin13 says to  (00:42:25):
and I think it upsets you FMC.
pumpkin13 says to  (00:42:36):
Hi oscara!!!
oscara says to  (00:42:47):
FMC1 says to  (00:43:42):
When I said u weren't part of our community I meant u were not part of the African community. U seem to be upset about that. Idk why though
FMC1 says to  (00:44:13):
I never said I didn't live in the US
pumpkin13 says to  (00:44:26):
I am not part of your town/city community if we live in different area's.
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:44:27):
they don't like to be excluded from anything
FMC1 says to  (00:44:46):
pumpkin forget about it doesn't matter
Towerpainter says to  (00:44:51):
I like to be excluded from many things
pumpkin13 says to  (00:45:22):
I think it does matter FMC.
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:45:32):
Black business is the topic tonight
pumpkin13 says to  (00:45:32):
I think it matters for both of us.
FMC1 says to  (00:45:38):
no it doesn't
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:45:58):
Black business is what the show is about
pumpkin13 says to  (00:46:25):
I am sad that you feel that way FMC.
FMC1 says to  (00:46:37):
Oh lawd and why is that?
Towerpainter says to  (00:47:39):
I am white but being black is golden for business do you know that 20% of all government contracts are set asside for minorities and in my field there are never any minority bidders and I don't know why
pumpkin13 says to  (00:47:46):
If we are ever going to overcome all the bs bigotry and hate in this country, we will need to learn to talk to each other.   Learn about and from each other.
FMC1 says to  (00:48:09):
To be honest that isn't my life's focus
pumpkin13 says to  (00:48:11):
share our views and ideas
FMC1 says to  (00:48:22):
i mean more power to those who are in that struggle tho
pumpkin13 says to  (00:49:20):
Do you want to be just like those White folks that used your ancestors as slaves.....tell me FMC.
Towerpainter says to  (00:49:30):
If one was to be wise they could start a business as a minority and could sub the work out.
pumpkin13 says to  (00:49:33):
Because you are sounding just like those people.
FMC1 says to  (00:49:39):
I want to be myself
BlackWealthCode says to  (00:49:48):
that's a distraction...
FMC1 says to  (00:50:22):
@BWC cosign
FMC1 says to  (00:51:27):
I don't intend to enslave or beat down any other group of people.
FMC1 says to  (00:51:45):
I don't see what I said that was so bad anyway
Pianki says to  (00:53:26):
Black Owned Airlines. All black everything.  http://s1.zetaboards.com/Express_Yourself/topic/4710231/1/
PenisBreathRonPaul says to  (00:54:47):
haaaaay bigotz
FMC1 says to  (00:54:54):
nice find
Pianki says to  (00:55:56):
Young Black Male recently set aviation history.  http://jonathanstrickland.com/?page_id=220
oscara says to  (00:56:28):
Where will mixed people fit in?
FMC1 says to  (00:56:28):
Shows like these always end too soon
Chef Robb says to  (00:57:31):
mascara with other mixed people
oscara says to  (00:57:48):
oh ok
FMC1 says to  (00:57:54):
Whoever they identify with
FMC1 says to  (00:58:04):
those who want to go white go the white side
FMC1 says to  (00:58:26):
those who choose black, asian, etc. go there
FMC1 says to  (00:59:43):
Been a good show so far
Kalagenesis says (00:59:47):
Pianki says to  (01:01:24):
Too late
Pianki says to  (01:01:48):
Hold that thought on "Red Neck Flags".

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